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| hero(es)= [[Jenny Everywhere#Second date|Jenny Everywhere]]
| hero(es)= [[Jenny Everywhere 1 (Second Date)|Jenny Everywhere]]
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| featuring= [[Jenny Everywhere's boyfriend (Second Date)|Jenny Everywhere's boyfriend]]<br>[[Jenny Everywhere#Chef at the Restaurant|“Chef Jenny”]]<br>[[Jenny Everywhere#Biker Jenny|“Biker Jenny”]]<br>[[Jenny Everywhere#Rifle-wielding Jenny|“Rifle-wielding Jenny”]]<br>[[Jhenni]]<br>[[Jenny Everywhere#As a ninja|“Ninja” Jenny]]<br>[[Jenny Everywhere#As a talking dinosaur|“Dinosaur” Jenny]]<br>[[The Doctor#In the Third Universe|“Bushy-haired guy”]]<br>[[Morpheus|“Pale man”]]
| featuring= [[Jenny Everywhere's boyfriend (Second Date)|Jenny Everywhere's boyfriend]]<br>[[Jenny Everywhere 2 (Second Date)|“Chef Jenny”]]<br>[[Jenny Everywhere 3 (Second Date)|“Biker Jenny”]]<br>[[Jenny Everywhere 4 (Second Date)|“Rifle-wielding Jenny”]]<br>[[Jhenni]]<br>[[Jenny Everywhere 3 (Beauty as a Beast)|“Ninja” Jenny]]<br>[[Jenny Everywhere 5 (Second Date)|“Dinosaur” Jenny]]<br>[[The Doctor#In the Third Universe|“Bushy-haired guy”]]<br>[[Morpheus|“Pale man”]]
| setting= [[The Restaurant]]
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== Contents ==
== Contents ==
===Plot ===
===Plot ===
On her second date with [[Jenny Everywhere's boyfriend (Second Date)|a new boyfriend]], [[Jenny Everywhere#Second date|Jenny Everywhere]] decides to take him to [[the Restaurant|an interdimensional restaurant]] staffed by, and principally patronised by, versions of Jenny — as a means of revealing her interdimensional nature to him. It takes a little while for him to realise the place is not simply owned by Jenny's surprisingly big family, although he is eventually forced to admit the truth of what Jenny is saying when he meets [[Jhenni]], an anthropomorphic rodent version of Jenny. Despite a bit of mischief between a [[Jenny Everywhere#As a ninja|Ninja Jenny]] and a [[Jenny Everywhere#As a talking dinosaur|reptilian Jenny]], the boyfriend, to Jenny's delight, soon voices utter delight and fascination with these revelations. She promises that she has much more wonderful places yet to show him.
On her second date with [[Jenny Everywhere's boyfriend (Second Date)|a new boyfriend]], [[Jenny Everywhere 1 (Second Date)|Jenny Everywhere]] decides to take him to [[the Restaurant|an interdimensional restaurant]] staffed by, and principally patronised by, versions of Jenny — as a means of revealing her interdimensional nature to him. It takes a little while for him to realise the place is not simply owned by Jenny's surprisingly big family, although he is eventually forced to admit the truth of what Jenny is saying when he meets [[Jhenni]], an anthropomorphic rodent version of Jenny. Despite a bit of mischief between a [[Jenny Everywhere 3 (Beauty as a Beast)|Ninja Jenny]] and a [[Jenny Everywhere 4 (Second Date)|reptilian Jenny]], the boyfriend, to Jenny's delight, soon voices utter delight and fascination with these revelations. She promises that she has much more wonderful places yet to show him.
===Worldbuilding===
===Worldbuilding===
====Jenny Everywhere====
====Jenny Everywhere====
* Jenny describes the number of her incarnations as “bigger than you can imagine. Bigger than anyone can imagine.” According to her “Some of us, an infinitesimal fraction, come <nowiki>[</nowiki>to [[the Restaurant]]<nowiki>]</nowiki> or places like it”.  
* Jenny describes the number of her incarnations as “bigger than you can imagine. Bigger than anyone can imagine.” According to her “Some of us, an infinitesimal fraction, come <nowiki>[</nowiki>to [[the Restaurant]]<nowiki>]</nowiki> or places like it”.  
* When her boyfriend notes that she isn't gay, Jenny replies, “Not usually”, the implication being that she is referring to a relative minority of her incarnations who ''are''.
* When her boyfriend notes that she isn't gay, Jenny replies, “Not usually”, the implication being that she is referring to a relative minority of her incarnations who ''are''.
* The story's [[Jenny Everywhere#Second date|main Jenny]] is human and currently on a second date with [[Jenny Everywhere's boyfriend (Second Date)|a normal person]].
* The story's [[Jenny Everywhere 1 (Second Date)|main Jenny]] is human and currently on a second date with [[Jenny Everywhere's boyfriend (Second Date)|a normal person]].
* A number of other Jennies are seen in [[the Restaurant]]:
* A number of other Jennies are seen in [[the Restaurant]]:
** [[Jenny Everywhere#Chef at the Restaurant|One dark-haired Jenny]] wearing a [[Jenny Everywhere's scarf|light scarf]] is manning the stove of the Restaurant itself.
** [[Jenny Everywhere 2 (Second Date)|One dark-haired Jenny]] wearing a [[Jenny Everywhere's scarf|light scarf]] is manning the stove of the Restaurant itself.
** One Jenny appears as “[[Jenny Everywhere#Biker Jenny|a young woman in classic motorcycle gear]], complete with leather helmet”. She has a long white scarf with “something printed on it in Japanese”.
** One Jenny appears as “[[Jenny Everywhere#Biker Jenny|a young woman in classic motorcycle gear]], complete with leather helmet”. She has a long white scarf with “something printed on it in Japanese”.
** [[Jenny Everywhere#Rifle-wielding Jenny|Another]], who looks physically identical to the aforementioned “biker” Jenny, is wearing buckskins and a fringed shawl. Shhe has a 19th century lever-action rifle beside her.  
** [[Jenny Everywhere#Rifle-wielding Jenny|Another]], who looks physically identical to the aforementioned “biker” Jenny, is wearing buckskins and a fringed shawl. Shhe has a 19th century lever-action rifle beside her.  
** A hooded [[Jenny Everywhere#As a ninja|ninja Jenny]] wears “night vision goggles (…), a straight sword and a blood red scarf”. She is apparently lways getting into fights with the [[Jenny Everywhere#As a talking dinosaur|“dinosaur Jenny”]].  
** A hooded [[Jenny Everywhere 3 (Beauty as a Beast)|ninja Jenny]] wears “night vision goggles (…), a straight sword and a blood red scarf”. She is apparently lways getting into fights with the [[Jenny Everywhere 4 (Second Date)|“dinosaur Jenny”]].  
** [[Jhenni]] is “a furry creature, the size of a human child with the head of a giant rodent”. She wears a “prim Victorian dress”, speaks in a cultured British accent, and wears “a long knit scarf”. She described by other Jennies as “a dear”, and as rather far away from home.
** [[Jhenni]] is “a furry creature, the size of a human child with the head of a giant rodent”. She wears a “prim Victorian dress”, speaks in a cultured British accent, and wears “a long knit scarf”. She described by other Jennies as “a dear”, and as rather far away from home.
** [[Jenny Everywhe#Cha Ni|One Jenny]] has grey hair and wears a blindfold over her eyes.
** [[Jenny Everywhere#Cha Ni|One Jenny]] has grey hair and wears a blindfold over her eyes.
* Jenny notes that [[the Paragraph]] keeps turning up around her. In this instance, it is printed on her boyfriend's placemat at their restaurant table.
* Jenny notes that [[the Paragraph]] keeps turning up around her. In this instance, it is printed on her boyfriend's placemat at their restaurant table.
====Universes====
====Universes====
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====Other====
====Other====
* Also present at [[the Restaurant]] are a “[[The Doctor|bushy-haired guy playing with a yoyo]]” with European features, and a “[[Morpheus|deathly pale man with an electric-socket hairdo]]” who is “morosely pondering” [[Dreamstone|“a ruby the size of a baseball”]].
* Also present at [[the Restaurant]] are a “[[The Doctor|bushy-haired guy playing with a yoyo]]” with European features, and a “[[Morpheus|deathly pale man with an electric-socket hairdo]]” who is “morosely pondering” [[Dreamstone|“a ruby the size of a baseball”]].
* The [[Jenny Everywhere 4 (Second Date)|reptilian Jenny]] looks like “a miniature [[Godzilla]]”.
===Continuity===
===Continuity===
* The gray-haired Jenny with the blindfold over her eyes, [[Cha Ni]], would later play a more prominent part in [[PROSE]]: ''[[Paying It Forward (novel)|Paying It Forward]]''.
* The gray-haired Jenny with the blindfold over her eyes, [[Cha Ni]], would later play a more prominent part in [[PROSE]]: ''[[Paying It Forward (novel)|Paying It Forward]]''.
* This story introduces a [[Jenny Everywhere 3 (Beauty as a Beast)|ninja Jenny]]. A [[Jenny Everywhere 1 (Beauty as a Beast)|different Jenny]] had previously mentioned in [[COMIC]]: ''[[Beauty as a Beast (comic story)|Beauty as a Beast]]'' that she had trained as a ninja in another incarnation.
== Behind the scenes ==
== Behind the scenes ==
===Background===
===Background===
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I didn't have a good grasp on the version of Jenny that I wanted to use and the story has rather more cute ideas than plot or character. But it's got the one great quality people look for in an art work: it exists; it's done.
I didn't have a good grasp on the version of Jenny that I wanted to use and the story has rather more cute ideas than plot or character. But it's got the one great quality people look for in an art work: it exists; it's done.


I do remember that some of the cameo Jennies were ones for whom I had vague ideas, but all the notes on them from that era are long lost.|Scott Sanford}}
I do remember that some of the cameo Jennies were ones for whom I had vague ideas, but all the notes on them from that era are long lost.
 
<i>(12 Sept 2021)</i> Because I was asked on the Discord channel: Yes, those unnamed fellows are meant to be the Fourth Doctor and Neil Gaiman's Morpheus. There aren't that many people - even using the word loosely - who are likely to wander into a room full of Jennies...
 
<i>(18 Feb 2022)</i> I'm pretty sure the early-20th century biker in this story isn't the high-tech 21st century biker in Paying it Forward parts six and seven; lots of Jennies ride motorcycles and they don't seem to have anything else in common. On the other hand the oracle is obviously Cha Ni, She Who Sees Everywhere, as seen in the first part of Paying it Forward. I hadn't planned that! It wasn't until well into the later story that I went back and looked at Second Date - and there she was in the prose, years earlier.
 
<i>Commentary found in a notes file from 2008:</i>
Well, where to start? This was my first JE story, and while lacking in plot it‘s a pretty cute little vignette.
 
Also, since Jenny has special powers, conflict and drama arise in situations where those powers don’t help her, such as finding a decent boyfriend.
 
If you liked Second Date, try looking up Roger Zelazny’s short story ‘A Very Good Year,’ which has a certain thematic similarity which I won‘t spoil here. Under no circumstances read that story first, however, as Zelazny was a better writer than I am… I stumbled over it again by accident after getting my first draft of Second Date done and realized that I had indeed read something similar before. A strong overtone of Zelazny’s writing style can be seen in the opening to the next story, Parallax.|Scott Sanford}}
===Read online===
===Read online===
The story is available both [https://sites.google.com/site/scotthsanford/second-date on Sanford's original ''Jenny Everywhere'' Google Site] and on [https://scott-sanford.dreamwidth.org/39291.html the author's Dreamwidth website]. There, it was given some [https://scott-sanford.dreamwidth.org/39475.html Author's Commentary].
The story is available both [https://sites.google.com/site/scotthsanford/second-date on Sanford's original ''Jenny Everywhere'' Google Site] and on [https://scott-sanford.dreamwidth.org/39291.html the author's Dreamwidth website]. There, it was given some [https://scott-sanford.dreamwidth.org/39475.html Author's Commentary].
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Latest revision as of 15:04, 7 May 2023

Second Date was the first Jenny Everywhere short story created by Scott Sanford, in 2008. It was a Multi-Shifter Story featuring numerous versions of Jenny.

Contents

Plot

On her second date with a new boyfriend, Jenny Everywhere decides to take him to an interdimensional restaurant staffed by, and principally patronised by, versions of Jenny — as a means of revealing her interdimensional nature to him. It takes a little while for him to realise the place is not simply owned by Jenny's surprisingly big family, although he is eventually forced to admit the truth of what Jenny is saying when he meets Jhenni, an anthropomorphic rodent version of Jenny. Despite a bit of mischief between a Ninja Jenny and a reptilian Jenny, the boyfriend, to Jenny's delight, soon voices utter delight and fascination with these revelations. She promises that she has much more wonderful places yet to show him.

Worldbuilding

Jenny Everywhere

  • Jenny describes the number of her incarnations as “bigger than you can imagine. Bigger than anyone can imagine.” According to her “Some of us, an infinitesimal fraction, come [to the Restaurant] or places like it”.
  • When her boyfriend notes that she isn't gay, Jenny replies, “Not usually”, the implication being that she is referring to a relative minority of her incarnations who are.
  • The story's main Jenny is human and currently on a second date with a normal person.
  • A number of other Jennies are seen in the Restaurant:
    • One dark-haired Jenny wearing a light scarf is manning the stove of the Restaurant itself.
    • One Jenny appears as “a young woman in classic motorcycle gear, complete with leather helmet”. She has a long white scarf with “something printed on it in Japanese”.
    • Another, who looks physically identical to the aforementioned “biker” Jenny, is wearing buckskins and a fringed shawl. Shhe has a 19th century lever-action rifle beside her.
    • A hooded ninja Jenny wears “night vision goggles (…), a straight sword and a blood red scarf”. She is apparently lways getting into fights with the “dinosaur Jenny”.
    • Jhenni is “a furry creature, the size of a human child with the head of a giant rodent”. She wears a “prim Victorian dress”, speaks in a cultured British accent, and wears “a long knit scarf”. She described by other Jennies as “a dear”, and as rather far away from home.
    • One Jenny has grey hair and wears a blindfold over her eyes.
  • Jenny notes that the Paragraph keeps turning up around her. In this instance, it is printed on her boyfriend's placemat at their restaurant table.

Universes

Other

Continuity

Behind the scenes

Background

When republishing the story on Dreamwidth in 2021, Scott Sanford appended some commentary looking back at the story:

Second Date was my first Jenny Everywhere story, all the way back in 2008. I'm unhappy with it in various ways but I'm reposting it as is anyway.

I didn't have a good grasp on the version of Jenny that I wanted to use and the story has rather more cute ideas than plot or character. But it's got the one great quality people look for in an art work: it exists; it's done.

I do remember that some of the cameo Jennies were ones for whom I had vague ideas, but all the notes on them from that era are long lost.

(12 Sept 2021) Because I was asked on the Discord channel: Yes, those unnamed fellows are meant to be the Fourth Doctor and Neil Gaiman's Morpheus. There aren't that many people - even using the word loosely - who are likely to wander into a room full of Jennies...

(18 Feb 2022) I'm pretty sure the early-20th century biker in this story isn't the high-tech 21st century biker in Paying it Forward parts six and seven; lots of Jennies ride motorcycles and they don't seem to have anything else in common. On the other hand the oracle is obviously Cha Ni, She Who Sees Everywhere, as seen in the first part of Paying it Forward. I hadn't planned that! It wasn't until well into the later story that I went back and looked at Second Date - and there she was in the prose, years earlier.

Commentary found in a notes file from 2008: Well, where to start? This was my first JE story, and while lacking in plot it‘s a pretty cute little vignette.

Also, since Jenny has special powers, conflict and drama arise in situations where those powers don’t help her, such as finding a decent boyfriend.

If you liked Second Date, try looking up Roger Zelazny’s short story ‘A Very Good Year,’ which has a certain thematic similarity which I won‘t spoil here. Under no circumstances read that story first, however, as Zelazny was a better writer than I am… I stumbled over it again by accident after getting my first draft of Second Date done and realized that I had indeed read something similar before. A strong overtone of Zelazny’s writing style can be seen in the opening to the next story, Parallax.

Scott Sanford

Read online

The story is available both on Sanford's original Jenny Everywhere Google Site and on the author's Dreamwidth website. There, it was given some Author's Commentary.